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Parenting With A Purpose
Donna Janel Williams, a Chester native is on a mission to bring back the responsibility, nobility, and beauty back to parenting. Parenting With A Purpose show aims to reach, teach and propel single mom, single dads, married, divorced, adopted, and foster parents all over the world with engaging conversations to help parents raise up successful leaders. Donna Janel believes parents are the bows and children are the arrows and they will land in the direction we aim them.
Parenting With A Purpose
Creating Strong Family Bonds Through Purposeful Parenting
Imagine parents as the bows that guide their children, the arrows, towards their future. This episode, featuring insights from our guest Briel, promises to provide you with fresh perspectives on "Parenting with a Purpose." We tackle the weighty yet crucial topics of parental guidance, community support, and the delicate balance of screen time, all while addressing the ever-present concern of school safety. Through engaging anecdotes and practical advice, we aim to arm parents with the tools needed to build strong partnerships with educators and foster a nurturing environment for children to thrive.
Join us as we explore the profound responsibility that comes with parenting and its impact on children's behavior. With a touch of humor, we reflect on how our reactions as parents can influence our children, discussing themes ranging from the need for discipline versus the pitfalls of punitive measures. Our discussion takes a thoughtful look at the role of education and the importance of parents as proactive role models, sharing enlightening stories about the surprises—and sometimes challenges—of raising kids. Plus, you'll hear about the inspiring opportunities available during HBCU week, showing how investing in education can open doors for young minds.
Finally, we shift focus to the necessity of self-care for parents, an essential yet often neglected aspect of nurturing better relationships with our children. Through personal stories, we highlight the importance of healing, personal growth, and the metaphorical "empty cup" theory. We emphasize that taking care of oneself is not only a form of true wealth but a crucial element in the journey of parenting. By utilizing community resources and embracing the support available, parents can find balance and intention in their roles, ultimately fostering a healthier, more supportive environment for their families.
Parents are the Bows and Children are the Arrows they will land wherever we aim them eventually!
cnpradionet the voice of chester my name is omar skinner my name is brielle my name is veneer chapman my name is pamela expecting father.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of nervous. Don't really know what to expect for it.
Speaker 1:I am a single father of two one boy, one girl I have a husband of almost seven years.
Speaker 3:We have one child, which is a baby girl. I have been a godmother for five years now.
Speaker 1:Just show parents what a purpose gives you great information to learn and see other people's point of view from different perspectives. Just take it and take heed to what they say and put it into your lifestyle.
Speaker 2:Parenting with a purpose for me would be leading my daughter into the world, showing her that she's not in this world by herself.
Speaker 3:We all know that it takes a village to raise a child, Just being there for other individuals to know like you're not alone. There's resources out here, there's villages out here for you to be a part of.
Speaker 4:And when you're connected with Parents with a Purpose, I am your host, donna Janelle.
Speaker 3:And I am your co-host, pamela.
Speaker 4:Damn Pam, you're not even like. I am your host, pamela.
Speaker 3:And our co-host. No, that show was pretty cool so I got tuned in. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yo can't you tell this thing, life I, I didn't even uh like that energy that pam just brought though what's up with that? Yes, let's try this hey, welcome to parenting with a purpose I am your host donna janelle and I am your co-host, pamela, that's much better
Speaker 4:so thank you for joining parenting with the purpose. As you can tell, we are silly up in here today. Um, remember that parenting. We want to bring back the responsibility, nobility and beauty back into parenting. Yes, parents are the bows and our children are arrows and they will land wherever we aid them, as long as we give them the proper tools. We don't send them outside naked. So last week, we're going to kind of talk about last week a little bit before we get into this week. So, pam, break it down, what we were talking about last week.
Speaker 3:Oh, we talked about a few things. We had Brielle in here as a special guest and she dropped a few nuggets on us in regards to it being a partnership between parents and teachers. So it's not all on the teachers and it's not all on the parents having an open line of communication with your teacher and vice versa, finding different ways that you could communicate with your teacher or your parent. Also, we gave out a few tips to do to lessen your children having screen time, so doing activities such as puzzles, reading books and even different things you can do when you're walking into grocery stores or just going about your everyday life to encourage and enhance your children having a love for reading.
Speaker 4:Okay, and we also talked about the shootings and school violence and things like that which is going to be. We're going to pretty much touch that every week a little bit of it because it's, it's just.
Speaker 3:And what was interesting is, a lot of schools are doing the drills, but uh, brielle, let us know her school hasn't done one yet yeah, they have.
Speaker 4:they haven't done one yet, especially in kindergarten, because we know that some preschools and stuff are doing it, because remember, when we looked at the stats right, it was from K to 12 was mostly affected by it. Like, I think, out of the 46 shootings, I think maybe 13 were in college and the rest of them were on school campuses of K to 12.
Speaker 4:So we know it's important, we know it's necessary to do these drills. So some schools are doing it, you know, and some schools aren't. I don't know if they're just not comfortable with it yet or whatever, but there are some schools, a lot of schools, are doing it. I think it's like a mandate, though I think they have to do it.
Speaker 3:I mean clearly, when I was in high school, and that was over 10 years ago, we had to do it. Now you do fire drills. I believe they have to do it like once or twice a month. Those drills, I think we did them like every three months because what it entailed in the time that was involved in them it wasn't a a hour drill or 35, 45 minute drill. That drill sometime was like two hours.
Speaker 4:Listen you said 10 years ago yes, man, that drill sometime was like two hours.
Speaker 3:Listen, you said 10 years ago, yes, man, so they should be doing them now. They did active shooter drills 10 years ago, yes. Wow so. I went to high school in Maryland, so I graduated from Pinkator in Delaware but I started in Maryland. We had to do them.
Speaker 4:I'm dating myself, because all we had was fire drills, y'all Wow, you know, I graduated in 1998. I was a punk, oh you see, I was a punk. This is what I'm talking about. You know what I mean? I guess this is payback, because a lot of my friends and my prayer partners and them are much older than I am, so I'm always teasing them. So now I'm here with a young kid. Okay, okay, okay, payback.
Speaker 4:Alright, yeah, so we didn't have to do that, so it's definitely a different um time. So tonight we want to talk about, though, like something that's really and we kind of started it last week, though, when we talked about parental involvement, and I was thinking about it and I'm seeing the news, I see a lot of things going on and I'm just like, uh, we really got to get into this. Uh, parental involvement. There's such a mandate on parenting that hold on, we got a little one in the studio today. Excuse me, ma'am.
Speaker 3:You are doing a flag on the flag we live, ma'am, she's like.
Speaker 4:So we have come here, tor, come on, come on, come on, we have Pam baby girl here. Come here, Tor.
Speaker 1:Oh you come on, come on, we have Pam baby girl here.
Speaker 4:Come here, tor. Oh, you said you wanted to get on the video. Then you back here making all that noise so you can say hi to everybody. So you'll be okay, and then you'll be quiet the rest of the show, right, yeah, okay, come here. I'm going to give you the mic right here.
Speaker 3:What you want to say to the people hi, that's it.
Speaker 4:That's it. Yeah, oh, thank you. All right. So now we go quiet down. All right, see, thank you, go have a seat. So it's funny because, tour, at the beginning of before we start filming, she asked can she be on this show? She was like can I be on there? We're like, oh, we're gonna get you your own show. And then I guess, because we over here talking and she decided to do her own show over there without the camera, so we had to bring her over here. But yeah, really, a mandate on parenting, like, yeah, there are so many different things going on in parenting and I feel like it is up to us and we touched about this last week Like in order for things to change. It is, I believe the parents.
Speaker 3:Yes, because we talked about how it begins at home. That foundation starts at home, so you can't expect the teachers to do something or input something that you're not inputting at home. It's just basically going against everything they're teaching at school and vice versa. That's why we talked about that open line of communication. But something that I seen had gave me a wow, um. It was like you know your kids do something and, before you respond, take a moment. The example was they do something that you don't like or that you've told them not to do. It was like take a moment before you respond to see if how you're basically responding is going to produce an action that you don't want right that's like.
Speaker 4:So I like that and I always say you got to kind of take that pause right. A lot of times, um, and this is how, um, a lot of child abuse has happened right, because you're angry, you're upset and you're disciplined out of anger and it becomes an abuse and it goes too far.
Speaker 4:So that's what happened kind of with this child abuse thing and that's why it became this big thing where parents shouldn't be hitting our kids and stuff like that a corporal punishment. But it's really because people were doing it out of anger what?
Speaker 3:kind of punishment.
Speaker 4:did you go Corporal punishment? Oh, I thought you said corporate. No, a whole society doing it. You go to some of them schools.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to elaborate on that.
Speaker 4:You go to some of them schools. Yo, you know what. This is what I'm thinking. You said corporate. I'm thinking about back in the day, like in the neighborhood you could say that's corporate, because I remember They'll whoop you. I remember They'll whoop you. I remember before you even get to your mom, like your neighbor done got you. Your neighbor neighbor done got you. So I would think that would have been corporate punishment. You're not thinking about it. They had a whole union, they had a whole community. It was a whole community to make sure, because by the time you got to your mom you really ain't need nothing, but she still was going to do it anyway. You're embarrassing me. That's corporate punishment, oh, but no, I'm saying corporal. Like you know, a lot of people don't understand it the difference between abuse and discipline you know, right so, um, basically what we, how we respond.
Speaker 4:All right, so, when we think about what we want the outcome to be like, I'm more like how do I want this outcome to be so, then I'm going to act accordingly, like.
Speaker 4:If I want this outcome to be like I'm more like, how do I want this outcome to be so, then I'm going to act accordingly, like. If I want this outcome to be like a yelling match, I'm about to snap out. Right, if I'm angry, me and you about to go at it and the kid, why are you yelling me? Why are you yelling me? You know, back and forth. Or, if I want it to be, instead of talking to my child, talking with them, right like at them yeah, yeah, like that yelling and shooting down.
Speaker 4:You did it. Can you explain to me why this happened? Or something like that? I think it's just a better approach, but I feel like it's not even just the education system, it's in life in general, like how are we raising our kids? Like when we look at everything that's going on with our kids, right, the number one thing is like my I always look, look, is like where's the parents, what they doing, what they got going on right, because here's the thing we are responsible for our kids, no, seriously.
Speaker 3:So okay, I want to touch on something are you familiar with, like HBC, hbcu, uh, week, yeah, okay, and did you hear what happened at the college?
Speaker 3:break it down to us. So every year, I think, uh, ashley, christopher, she's been doing it for about like six, seven years forgive me if it's been more um and it's like a week full of different um events, activities, right, and she invested a lot of time in that stuff and it always turns out wonderful. And one of the things they do is a college tour to give excuse me, to give students the opportunity to get scholarships on hand, so not waiting to hear back, like you find out that same day. And I actually have a niece who's been attending since her, I think maybe her freshman year, so I'm getting the experience knowing how to write your different letters and different stuff and just preparing her for the future, also building resources as well and a community, because she's not sure where she wants to go to college. Well, there was people who had no intent to be proactive, to utilize those resources and just went there and started like madness.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like it was fights. It was over six fights, six different fights that broke out. The chief of police had to show up, it was weapons, all kinds of things, and it was just chaos to the point.
Speaker 3:The event had to be shut down early, so children who went there and, you know, had expectation to receive were basically like Denied it because of the actions of others and different people you know made posts and was talking about it, gave their different opinions and a lot of people were saying you know, I blame parents. And then you have parents on there like well, I know some of the kids who did this and their parents want to prove of it. But are you sure?
Speaker 4:Right. So here's the thing with that, even though you know kids would go wayward, like kids going to do what kids do. But here's the thing, when it's like behavior like that, that makes me question, like because then you got to think about morals and values and things like that and character, integrity, like those things that we're supposed to be instilling in our kids. So if a child feel like it's necessary to go to demonize an event, so that makes me wonder what's the foundation, not just the foundation.
Speaker 3:What was that time that you let go? That you thought was okay.
Speaker 4:That now has built a whole character in that child, yeah, and that's why I said parenting is so important because, listen, our children have their own mind, their own, their own personality, right? But if we understand how growth and development happens from a baby right from the beginning and we're putting things into them right now, don't get me wrong there are some, some children that have some mental illnesses and mental disturbance. That that we that's nothing we can have done about it, right, however? But they're.
Speaker 4:We are responsible to nurture and grow our children to be successful right so when they're out, when kids are out here doing all this crazy stuff, I do look at the parents because, let me tell you something, my children are a reflection of me. So whether they do something right or whether they do something wrong, they're still a reflection, because how I respond to that is my responsibility. There you go, right. Just for example, the young man that shot up the school in Texas, right, his father gave him the gun, so he had a problem. His father didn't address it. Or his mom, his father, he had a problem, his father didn't address it. Or his mom. His father purchased the gum knowing that he was dangerous to society, and now people are dead because of that.
Speaker 4:I'm blaming the parents for these kids who are out one, two or three o'clock in the morning, jumping that elderly man in philadelphia a couple years ago and we're with the parents like we're. We're with the parents. So I'm not saying that we need to blame parents for everything, but we need to be held accountable Like parents, need to step up the game. We should not let society raise our kids. We should not expect the school to raise our kids, society to raise our kids. We should not expect us to work five or six jobs and leave that kid at home and think that they're going to do the right thing. We should not expect that we're going to go out clubbing and partying and whatever hanging out with our friends and our kids are going to do the right thing. We cannot expect that. We cannot expect that we're sitting in front of a TV and think that they're going to learn some good lessons and be good people in the world. We cannot expect that you got to put in the work for parenting period.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, I agree. I agree with you 100%, because it's something that kind of almost like grinds your gears right and then has you me personally. Let me speak for me. Like what, what else can I do better? So when I see different kids and stuff, like I like to sit outside on on my back patio and if I see people walk past like hello speaking, and some of them kids, literally, I think they started coming past mine instead of going going to other neighbor, going to other neighbors in, and it's like they look for me like hey, how much. And then if my dad is there, he's a whole fireball. So where's the old man at, where's? The whole.
Speaker 3:Thing because it's just like greeting them, making them feel noticed in a in a positive way. Right, they don't have to be out here being loud or doing certain things to get attention, just walking, chilling hello, how are you how? Was your day today. How was school? Y'all doing good. Y'all showing up how y'all supposed to. Y'all need anything, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:Just taking care of my community because at the end of the day, they're a part of my community even though they're not my children, have no relations to them, I still just want to check in on my community you said something that was real key there, because I see it often like I hear too.
Speaker 4:I hear people, uh, complaining that, um, the kids are rude, they don't speak to people, just any other. But are you making yourself available? Are you speaking to these kids? Are you pleasant, um, or anything like that?
Speaker 4:I'm making sure home girl don't, though is she over there y'all with the, with the stuff for the studio. Little little mom over there I'm trying to make sure that she don't be touching no keys and running the show, so, uh, she put a book down and everything I had to see y'all. I don't know what's going on over here, but, um, like being approachable, having a conversation, when you see kids, like be pleasant, be smiling, like a lot of times I see adult just give me mugging kids, like like they got a problem with kids. You don't even know that kid. Like what's wrong with you? Like how do we expect our kids to walk around with joy and happiness when half the daggone adults ain't even happy or got joy? They got problems there you go.
Speaker 4:And then like and then if you, if the kids say like, then it's a little battle. Oh them kids, disrespectful, they smart, but do you, how did you even just present yourself Like you don't know, like you can be the person that changed the trajectory of that child's life? And some sunshine, because you don't know what's going on behind the scenes with these kids? These kids deal with dark stuff. Yes, they deal with dark and demonic things. Yes, and we, as parents, we got to really jump in. I heard something at the leadership conference I was at saturday and one of the things that, um, he was telling us as leaders is that you know, sometimes we want to do the avoidance thing. Oh, I'm, it's not my business, I'm not about that, let me mind my business, whatever.
Speaker 4:But sometimes you gotta jump in the mess like step in the mess as parents, you gotta step in that mess and say, hey, what's going on, what it do, what it do learn the children that your kids are hanging with.
Speaker 3:Learn their parents. And that's not saying, oh, you gotta get a relationship with them. You can just watch them, observe them from afar, see the things they do in this environment. See the things they're doing in that environment. Go on those field trips when they're saying, oh, I want to go to the movies. Drop them off at the movies. Go watch a movie yourself. I think that we.
Speaker 4:I would say we because I can do it a little better too. Right, as parents. I know that life be out here, right that's just what it is.
Speaker 4:I know that we have jobs, we have different things that we're involved in, but, at the end of the day, our children need us and it is our responsibility to make sure that they have the proper resources that they need to be successful. Like, think about this. I had this conversation with my bonus mom. Like children are a gift, right? Yes, I believe children are. I think I'm a gift. Life is a gift. Yes, like it's a gift. So our children are definitely a gift to us, right? How are we handling this gift and how do we view gifts right? Because sometimes you can get a gift, you pick it up and you throw it down, or you ignore the gift, or you give the gift to someone else, or like how it's. How are you viewing your gift right?
Speaker 3:do you appreciate your gift? Is it valuable? When you just said something? So it's like how are you re-gifting your gift? Yeah, because if they're a gift to us, then now they're a gift to the world, so how? Are you? Re-gifting your gift. Are you using the same wrapping paper that it came to you in? Are you using the same bag? Are you fixing it up? Are you adding the tissue paper? If you're using the bag, what are you doing? How you?
Speaker 4:presenting it. I just thought about that when you said are we how we be wrapping? I'm like you know, when you take off the wrapping of a gift, like you're taking it off, you're ripping off whatever, because sometimes you ain't fragile with it, unless it's real cute, right? Or if it's real cute wrapping paper, you want to reuse that wrapping paper. You real careful like, oh man, the tape got a little color off of there, but I can use a highlighter get that on.
Speaker 4:There like how you and I thought about like, are you using the same rap? Are you crumbling that gift? Like, what are you doing with our gift? So how we value our gift is how we're going to like, present it to the world.
Speaker 4:So a lot of times I don't know if parents realize that our children are gifts, like some parents. You know we just popped up pregnant, whatever. I mean, we didn't just pop up, but you know kids in the room, but something, things happen and you end up pregnant, right. But but now that you have this child, what are you doing? Because you can get everything that you like. Your kids can look at TV, your kids can look at this, that and the other, but it's you who is most impressive in your child's life. Right, like, we are the most. We are the first cheerleaders, we are the lovers, we're everything to our kids, because what they see at home they will exemplify. Now, I'm not saying that kids don't cut up, listen, I'm telling you. I told you that time when I heard my daughter was cussing like that. I'm like we don't even do that at my house. Where does this?
Speaker 3:come from.
Speaker 4:How long you thought her cussing at the house. Listen, let me tell you what I did. I heard that she was cussing at school. She cussed the teacher out. I was so livid, I was so embarrassed, I was so upset because I'm like we won't even do that. Then I thought about when I was younger.
Speaker 3:I know she gave her that neck yeah my girl gives listen.
Speaker 4:So the teacher was like I was so mad because we don't do that in my household, right, and it's not. I'm not one of those parents who you see me one way at church, you see me one way in the grocery store, you see me somewhere at home, you see what you get. Like somebody said the other day when we were at the leadership conference they was like we need minister Donna today. We don't need. And then the other person was like well, they're the same people. Just so, you know, minister Donna, donna, janelle and Donna, we're the same people. Like I don't do the switch listen.
Speaker 4:When I was younger I did all that switched up personality stuff. I'm getting too old for that, right, that's too much work I've got to invest in to be multiple people in multiple places, okay, so what you see is what you get. I don't go off, I don't curse at my kids or anything like that, and to hear my children use profanity outside in the house or outside the house really disturbed me. I was was like is that what you're saying? No, but again, kids are around other kids. Kids are around other adults, like they see it. So it's not like we can shelter them from everything. My concern is that, even though you see it, why you be in it Right and what made you feel comfortable to do it.
Speaker 4:Yes. So when the teacher hit me up with that and I believed her, I didn't think she was lying, because my homegirl she got you know, she tests my inner gangster she tests my inner gangster all the time. So I was upset, but I had a conversation with her and I asked her though I didn't go off and say you up here catching a school to study what you doing. I said what? Oh, she said well, I ran out of the other words to use. I needed something to stink, something that was significant oh something that something that hit home.
Speaker 4:I said, what hit home? Hit him in the belly. I said, oh, I said so. She said she said typically I use a lot of big words but I didn't feel like using those words. I ran out of those words. I decided to do something else that was going to sting them. I said, oh, she was intentional, but her curse out. So I explained to her like listen, you get trust me, I don't be cursing people out, but people think that I did without profanity, like my sister who passed away her mom. She's like Donna. I don't know whether, if you just cuss me out without using profanity, like I don't know what, i'm't know how I'm supposed to respond to you right now. Like what just happened, because I will literally just have a conversation and you don't know what just happened. Like you know, something happened.
Speaker 4:Right, and you don't know like she didn't use no profanity, but she got me. How did you?
Speaker 3:discipline her.
Speaker 4:Darnay. Well, I just told her, um, don't do it again. I didn't. Um, oh no, I did. She couldn't go to soccer or something that day or something like the next day or something. She had asked me something that she wanted to do and I didn't let her do it because I was like you know, that behavior was out of control, right. So I didn't go in on her because this is the first time I heard about it. Okay, um, so I didn't go in and basically the way that she explained it to me, like I don't know, I couldn't even say nothing to her when she was explaining to me why she did it. You know what I mean. But here's the thing, the reason there's never a reason to disrespect anybody other, kids or adults or anything. Right.
Speaker 4:And when she explained to me what was said to her and why her response was her response, I told her what was said to her was not nice. However, we don't fight back like that, right, we do the ignore thing so that they're like they don't think that nothing really happened, like they, their words or whatever they say is just in the air, like once you start acknowledging stuff, you feed in that situation. So we talked about it and we're still working on it. You know what I mean? She's 16 and she she's small but fierce and um, so we work on it, but that's even example. Even though I don't do it in my household, she did that at school. So I'm not saying that parents, everything that kids do is parents fault. However, if we don't give them a foundation, though, if we don't right, if we don't take responsibility and say okay, this is giving them morals and and ethics and things like that and the response.
Speaker 3:Like you said, you didn't go at her. What the is your problem?
Speaker 4:you know, because then that's the same thing you're doing exactly.
Speaker 3:So it's like in a lot times that's what's happening. Yeah, that's what they get and the kids is used to it. So it's like I know this, this is going to be one of the consequences or this is going to be one of the versus. You change the game up on them, like talk to me, like take what's going on. Let's see where we both could be better at.
Speaker 4:You know, because maybe I'm lacking somewhere and I didn't realize it, that that you out here feeling comfortable to be embarrassed, but not even that, one of the things I do I kind of tug on my kid's heart because this ain't even just about me.
Speaker 4:You're embarrassing God, you're embarrassing yourself oh, you walk in deep like yeah, I do, because it's like we are a representation of God, right, and I'm a representation of you and you're a representation of me. So what if I come outside doing all this ratchet, crazy stuff? What does that say to you, like, how does that make you feel? So, think about how it makes me feel and what God sees in us when we misbehave like that, and what examples are we setting, like?
Speaker 4:One of the things with her, though, is she is a leader and she wants to be a leader, but I keep explaining to her, like, as a leader, these are certain things we need to curve right. You know what I mean. Like we're not perfect, but if you expect people to follow you, you need to be doing the right thing. Don't have me follow you and you all jacked up, and now we all jacked up. For example this is another example, and I know, um, last year, there was a couple kids um on their train tracks and got killed, right. So there was I think it might have been like three or four kids and the uh, local, yeah, local here in chester. I was on the show when it happened, and, um, there was an older lady.
Speaker 4:She told the kids to get off the track, right she yeah, she told, she told the kids to get off the track and they's like no, no, no, they're getting smart, whatever doing whatever. Next thing, bam, the train comes right. So my question to to the parents is like are we, are we raising our kids to be respectful to everyone? Because, like you know, they get smart with the old lady, and old lady was just trying to save their life. Like, did children become so numb to authority? How does that happen, right? So am I blaming the parents that those kids was on that track? Absolutely not. But what I will question is, because of their character, of how they were acting, where they get that from?
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 4:When I see stuff that happened with kids, I really do question the parenting, because I think that sometimes parents think the world is supposed to raise the children. Oh, I'm putting food, clothes and shelter. I ain't got to be home and spend time with my kids, I just got to provide for them. I ain't got to invest no time in them. I ain't got to invest in their education. I ain't got to invest in their well-being. During this snappy day up here giving kids like this crappy food, I ain't even got to invest in good food for them. I'm feeding them right and I know, don't get me wrong. It is hard, it's a challenge in parenting, but I'm telling you, if we become really intentional and take the time out and do what we need to do for our kids, we will see a change in our children and society. In school, these teachers ain't got to deal with what they're dealing with.
Speaker 3:yep yep, that's crazy, because it's not crazy. But when you said, like you know, basically I'm taking care of the necessities and, um, I was reading something. It was like the necessities, but please don't forget, um, you know their uh, physical and mental well-being as well. How are you feeding that by? When you're clothing them with those clothes, um, and when you're, uh, when you're nurturing them with that food that you are buying, like how are you really caring for their physical and mental well-being? And then it even like broke it down going, like you know, spiritually as well. But I was just sitting there like, yeah, sometimes you do get caught up in the necessities. Like you know, they got shelter, clothes and food to eat. They good, but are you even like praying over that food that you're feeding them?
Speaker 4:listen? Are you listen? I am tired of the parenting school excuse. I'm doing the best that I can. Because, Because, are you really? Because the question is are you really? Because a lot of people use the excuse of I'm only doing what I can do, no, no, no, baby, you can do more. Are you investing? Are you putting? Here's the thing. You know, my theme this year has just been around here we put in the work. That's just my thing. Around here, we put in the work. I think that with the challenge of parenting, sometimes parents don't want to put in the work.
Speaker 3:Because you don't put in so much work in other areas that you probably had no business putting work in, whether it be relationships, friendships, jobs, like some of these jobs be a bit much.
Speaker 3:I don't love a job, jobs with an S because of not just my peace, but even how, how you're like, treated and respected on jobs, like how they feel as though they could talk to you as well.
Speaker 3:So when it comes to that, like I am a person, like I am a human being, I just don't demand respect, like you're either going to give it or I'm going to go on my way. Right, I'm not going to make you do something that you know you should be doing, so I'm just going to remove myself because, at the end of the day, when you are at work, when you do have extracurricular activities, the different things that go on, whether you know it or not, it attaches itself to you and then it'll start building roots. Then those roots will start having foundation in you and you're trying to figure out why you tripping out, why you spazzing out, why you reacting like this. Like you said, I ran out of this vocabulary. Well, since you ran out of this vocabulary, I'm going to go get you a different kind of dictionary, because these are the words you're going to learn now you get what I'm saying, that's how sometimes you got to navigate and like.
Speaker 3:I don't have enough of this over here.
Speaker 4:So how can I re work whatever we want to put in work where we feel that that's a priority, or or we're gonna quote, unquote reap the best benefit so are your children not your priority?
Speaker 3:oh, it's this guy. He got a podcast or whatever and he, his thing is um, identifying the dummy things we did. He's like little do we know? We do a dummy things and we, we go in cycles. And he was like um, like you said we and we invest.
Speaker 3:He was like why are you sitting here investing in your parents? That's, that's not how it's supposed to go. You're supposed to be invested in the next generation. So if you don't got children, you, feel me, find, find somebody younger or find an organization to invest in the deals with the youth, right, instead of investing in your parents. He said no, it was never said. He said even if you look in the bible, he said I don't even get down like that, but even the bible don't tell you. It tell you respect your parents, but it don't tell you oh, go invest, go buy your parents a house, go do this, go do that. Then you try to figure out why you broke or why your parents keep calling you to do this and that. No, you were supposed to be invested in them. Kids, you were supposed to be invested in the next generation.
Speaker 3:Right, right, right so even people who don't have children. You know, parenting with a purpose is, whatever role you play, whether it's auntie, uncle, you know the community aunt, the community cousin you be that best version of you every day, not just some days, not only on Wednesdays. You know every day.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:So find something that you didn't get to do on monday, do it on tuesday right, I think you know the whole thing to do this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I love to do this, you know, I got I got a whole list to do, I think, like I don't know if I'm a. So when, when, uh, my ex-husband left, right, and I had the two children and I was one who worked all the time and I was also active in my church and stuff like that, right? So when he left, one person said to me oh, what you going to do now that he's not there? How you going to raise your kids? And I was like what you mean? I was so confused with the question Because, primarily, I was more of a provider, though right. Because primarily I was more of a provider, though right. But I didn't think because of what other people said to me, I didn't think I had it in me to be a single mom to raise my kids, right. I didn't think that I had enough strength, fortitude or power to actually do it effectively. So in the beginning, when I first was single, well separated, I was really trying my best to prove people wrong.
Speaker 3:So you was working extra hard.
Speaker 4:I was working extra hard and one of my oldest told me that I was living a porcelain lifestyle. Everything looks pretty fragile. I was so micromanaged, overmanaged, everything, that everything had to look nice on the shelf, everything had to be in its proper place, right. But that was because I had to prove. I felt like I had to prove those people wrong about me parenting Like I can really do it.
Speaker 4:Time goes on and one of the things that really shift my parenting honestly is when my sister and her husband passed away and I got my girls that really shift my parents. And because it was no longer me, it was me having to address my own issues, though, because I know when I first got the girls, I had said to God, like because I felt like I was still broken from a lot of childhood things Right, and I felt like I was parenting out of fear and I felt like I wasn't healed, but I wanted to make sure that my children was okay. But you can't really make sure your children are okay if you don't get healed, so you really can't. A lot of times we try to make it because, as parents, this is what I must do you must get yourself healed so that they can get the best of you, absolutely so.
Speaker 4:I, um, I had said to God I was why you give me broken kids? When I'm broken, I am able to. And God was like well, who told you it was broken? So I was deeming myself as broken because of life experiences and things that happened to me, but he was like you're not broken. You may be bent, but you ain't broken. So but he showed me that I was a person for the job. So me that I was a person for the job. So, through me, getting them made me actually parent my biological children better. And that's how Parenting with a Purpose started. It's through God showing me how to do this parenting thing right.
Speaker 4:I remember we talked about that, yeah so a lot of times we think that we're doing things a certain way and it's right, because this is all I know, or I'm afraid, or things like that. But when we sit down and we listen to our kids and we have these conversations and we think about what is the outcome we want, and we are evaluating and say, okay, that don't look like it's hitting to the outcome. Now, don't get me wrong kids go left right, upside down, because sometimes, but at the same time is, what are we doing as parents? I feel like we are in such a time, a crisis time, where there is a true mandate on real parenting. There is a mandate. I think our children's lives depend on it. Yeah, go ahead, because I said a lot. You just be like yeah, go ahead, d, you got it.
Speaker 3:I was literally taking in everything you was saying, like I don't know. It's like you know, you. It's important to take a moment. It's really important to take a moment because, like you said, life be life and we get caught up in so much and, like, like you said before, you was trying to prove a point to the point, you ain't even realized not only was you hurting yourself, but you was bleeding out on the kids. And then here here you go, yes, here you go, getting a whole new set of children, and it's like that made you pull up, but not only that. It made you realize and self-evaluate. So, when we're taking that moment, what are we taking that moment to really do? Are we self-reflecting? Are we sitting there just picking at the wounds like, well, they did this to me. We already know that happened. You're not responsible for that, but you're responsible about how you move forward in life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, You're not responsible how you were raised. You're responsible how you raise yourself. Exactly Now, pam, you just said something and I want you to touch on that because I want to know kind of what that looks like. When you said, I thought about like, taking that moment right, taking a moment, and taking a moment, I thought about one of the things that we always say, about what we want to do as parents is protect our children, and I think taking a moment protects our children. Yep, can you tap on that?
Speaker 3:because if you don't, sometimes you'll be overprotective, so you'll be shielding them so much that they'll be oblivious to every little thing, like you ever been around a little kid. They're like what's that? What's that?
Speaker 4:and you're like girl. You know that.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be honest. It used to tick me like yo I'm to have to go talk to your parents. What's going on here? You act like you don't know nothing. But it be dead serious. It be dead serious. It's not the whys that get me, it's the what is that? Why are you doing that Like, look here, look here, look here. I guess y'all don't communicate or something. They can't just be innocent. All you know is rainbows and sprinkles over there. They can't just be. Pam, the happy kids made you mad. No, you wasn't happy, you don't know nothing. You don't know nothing. You can't open this bottle of water. You can't do nothing.
Speaker 4:Okay, one of those.
Speaker 3:Oh, what's that? That's water too. What kind of water do you drink out of? Only certain kind of bottles, only stainless steel, like what's going on here. I cannot but taking that moment. What it looks like for me is literally taking a moment like not doing nothing, even if it's for literally just like three minutes, taking a few deep breaths. I might step outside, you know, just taking the air and just try to really think about nothing. And then I have moments where I'm taking a moment. It's like hold on, we got to revise some stuff. Let's take a look. Let's come back to the drawing table. Last month we were doing we did this, we did that. This is the way we went about it. How can we go about it in October?
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:To get a different outcome. Not that September was bad, but we want more.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, we want better.
Speaker 3:So when we come back to the drawing table, remembering what happened, took self-notes of September. So when we get to october, we can have a.
Speaker 4:We can have better outcomes with other things right, such as our children yeah, I, I think one of the the hardest things right now or I would say the most challenging thing, is really getting parents to understand that you have the power like I got the power to make sure that my kids because I think that God has given children as a gift and that when we look at the school system, we look at sports, we look at all these extracurricular activities they are just resources, like they're just extension of what you already created right and put, and a lot of times we're using those things as the base and it's not the base Like you are the base, home base, yeah, the home base. Like you are the one who set the standard, you are the one who put things in order. And it starts young and even if you didn't do it right or there was a challenge, even when the kids were younger they're older now you still could do it because you're still the parent like, do you understand you?
Speaker 3:do you understand? So, do you think some parents don't realize that they have the power?
Speaker 4:I think that's what it is, or abuse. Oh, we can get both sides, we can have. I got the power and I abuse it. I have the power, I just don't know. I have the power Also. I have the power and I don't feel like doing nothing with it. The ball is in my court, yeah but I'm not even shooting Like, make that, make sense, you can, but I think it's just the work.
Speaker 3:I feel like parenting is work it is it's a lot of work. It's it's work when you don't even want it to be work right you ever be sleeping. Just wake up like thinking about the kids, yeah like hold up what's going on right everything be okay.
Speaker 3:But no, it is. It's it's work, even when you don't want it to be work. So that's why, when you have the time, it's very important to utilize that time wisely and instilling different things in them. And, once again, if you don't know what to instill with your kids, step into parenting with a purpose, because we have those resources. Uh, we'll talk with you, we'll encourage you. You will be a part of a village that will continue to uplift you, but you also gotta be willing to put the work you've got to put in the work.
Speaker 4:I can't say that enough, pam. Like really put pamela, really pamela's, in the house y'all. Oh, really putting in the work. Um, because we put work on our work, because we put work on our cars right, we put work in our house, we invest. Some people don't, I know they don't. You know, they changed the thing at the.
Speaker 3:DMV what are you talking about For when you get your car inspected? They changed certain things because we're getting those temp tags. You know you can go get a temp tag if you had something wrong with the car. Oh, for real, they changed it. It used to be 30 days, now it's 15. And it's more money. Wait, temp tags used to be 30 days, $20. You know, huh? Yes, because one time it happened to me with my old school, with your old school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, with my old school, with your old school, so wait and when I had to get it I was like, oh man, I'm gonna get pulled over there. It's like, no, you get a um temp tag. I'm like, how does that work? And it was like $20. I was like, well, by then I could have got my. They was like, yeah, but you didn't know, we ain't got to fix them, all taken care of, but yeah, so they had to change that up. So sometimes you need to change things up.
Speaker 4:Right. You need to invest and really put it on.
Speaker 3:Stop covering stuff up, stop putting a band-aid on stuff, for things get exposed in the way you don't want to do.
Speaker 4:That's not where I was going with that.
Speaker 3:That's where I went with it. That was not going. Oh, Pam you hard Because that's bleeding out on your tits. Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna say a little bit.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say stop putting band-aids on stuff that needs to be sutured, like healing from the inside out okay, first, that's what this leg is I'm just saying, like, sometimes we cover up, and by what I'm saying we covering up by giving our children material things like that's the cover-up.
Speaker 4:Letting them go hang out with friends that you don't even know nothing about, because you want to please your kid that's the cover-up. Because you are in the business of trying to please your kid instead of parenting your kid. That's the cover-up. So what I'm saying is that when we talk about putting band-aids on, like healing ourselves, so that we don't bleed on our kids, like killing our wounds, these are wounds that happen from childhood or even early adulthood or whatever life be lifin. And because we don't take care of these wounds, we're now bleeding our kids and we're putting band-aids on them, like clothes, shoes, and because we use clothes, shelters, food and all that as band-aids, instead of understanding that there's some emotional stuff, there are some mental stuff that needs to be taken care of. But first of all, I gotta take care of myself. So the mandate for parenting is take care of yourself so that you can take care of your kids.
Speaker 4:You, you know, we know the old saying, and I know you heard it, even though you're not. You know, oh, even though you're not. Oh, pam, um, you can't pour from an empty cup, right? So what does that really mean, though? Like you can't pour from an empty cup, but even if your cup full, will you pour or not of it? What's? What's what's the fullness of your cup like? How's your cup being filled, and is it being filled with the good things? Because our job as parents is for the fill our children cup up with good things. So if I don't.
Speaker 4:If I have a cup, I don't care how full that cup is, how running over that cup is, but what is in that cup? What is running over? Is it blood? Is it blood? Because now you're giving them, now you're feeding them blood. They can't move, you know. So I believe you can't pour from an empty cup. But I also believe that if we're going to fill our cup up, we need to fill it up with the good stuff, so that what we are pouring out we're giving goodness, kindness, values, morals, ethics. And the only way we can do that is if we invest in ourselves and put in our cup.
Speaker 3:So there's a mandate on stand up, pull up, as you said pull up, tap into the resources, tap in um to those things that you're the communities that you're seeing online, that you're like, oh no, I don't want to buy in my business, you know right yo that's what it always be. Oh, I want to buy in my business. I want to buy in my business, right?
Speaker 3:some people don't even want to be in your business, right, but if you want to buy in my business, right, some people don't even want to be in your business Right. You need to be in your own business to know what's really going on in your life. Do you know your business?
Speaker 4:Because you get tapped in. So here's the thing Again people do what they want to do, what they feel a priority. If you think something's going to make you money, you're going to go tap into that.
Speaker 3:If you think something's gonna make you money, you're gonna go tap into that. If you think something's gonna make you a certain status, you're gonna tap into that, right. So what else will make you a certain status? When you talk about money, I'll just say wealth, because some people think wealth is about the richest, like financially. But wealth is your health man, you can't buy the health taking care of your, your your mental well-being, your physical well-being, like all that. So I think, why wouldn't you want to invest in that?
Speaker 4:right, and one of the things that I do like people laugh at me or whatever, because I'm always researching. I'm always doing something like I don't really watch regular TV, like that. Every once in a while I might kick a movie, but I read like crazy. And I'm not reading just to say I read books, but I really be trying to learn some stuff. I like to see how other people I like to see biographies, because I like to see how people were raised and what they did with their life, even though they were fumbled or whatever, and it kind of makes me look at things. But also one of the things that I do, I tap in different Facebook groups Like really a community. There is so much technology out here. There's really no excuse of why we're not parenting well.
Speaker 3:No seriously.
Speaker 4:There's no excuse of why we're not parenting Like tap into resources and everybody say, well, it's not a book to raise children.
Speaker 3:Well, listen, it's not, but look On them. Groups. You don't want nobody in your business. Guess what I learned you could make a post anonymously.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So they don't even got to know that it's you, you could be chatting on there, and this year they don't even know Right. This, you, you could be chatting on there, and this year they don't even know right and they respond and you, you're getting answers or you're getting solutions to your problem right thing I say god will never give you a problem or a. He always make a way of escape number one.
Speaker 4:But he always give you a solution too when you got a problem the thing is that we need to be looking for the solution too much. Too much we're looking at the problem.
Speaker 3:We, we, we on the problem, add more to the problem stressed out, frustrated, anxiety, blood pressure going up.
Speaker 4:Now you're in the er who taking care of your kids. I'm just saying. I'm just saying I only said that because I did it, I did it, I did it in my parenting. I did so stressed out, doing everything else or whatever. And now what happened? Hence, I had those strokes Back in 2020. I had three strokes in 2020. You know why. You know what the doctor said it was stress.
Speaker 1:And you know what he said you out there Trying to move people, trying to fix.
Speaker 4:Trying to fix everybody Like I'm in line To fix my life. Let's know, donna, fix. Fix everybody like I'm in line to fix my life. Let no, donna, fix your life. How about that? Like I was working, I was in school and I was taking care of my kids as a single mom of four kids, um, and I felt like I had to do it all, or I desired to do it all, and um, no, no, baby girl, and not even doing that, but taking care of everybody else too. And that's the thing.
Speaker 4:And you know what the doctor said to me. That really woke me up and I thought I was really about to get smart with him. I really was, but I really couldn't talk like that because I had the strokes, I was paralyzed on my left side, but I was thinking some stuff in my head. He's going to say so what makes everybody else more important to you? I said because I couldn't talk. I said I could talk. I said, huh, what was you going to say? He said why do you feel like everybody else deserve what you give to them, but you deserve nothing? Why did you feel that way? I said, oh man, I ain't say it to him, but in my head, I was just in my head I was thinking I wish I could really talk real right now so I could lay him out.
Speaker 3:But why would you go and lay him out? Because it hit home.
Speaker 4:It really was true, it really was true.
Speaker 3:So you were pissed off because he was telling you.
Speaker 4:So it's true, like he was challenging me on. Like Donna, you doing everything else for everybody else. But what about you? Why do you feel like you need to be everybody's superhero? Why do you think like you need to be everybody's superhero? Why do you think that you're their savior? Like, why? Why are you trying to please everybody else and, yes, depleting yourself?
Speaker 4:Now, when you live a suffer and this is one of the things I do when I talk about because, as Christian, as people of God, a lot of times we go around we say we live a selfless life. Right, but living a selfless life does not mean you take care of yourself less, and what happens is when you take care of yourself less and you're giving it to everybody else, you're not giving it to them in the way that they need it and you're not being able to take care of your kids because now you're tainted from everything else. So you're not really living your best life, as you're quoting, because you're not taking care of you. So, in order for us to parent, well, we need to. I need to Donna, well, you need to Pam. Well, pamela, pamela, you need to dine a whale. You need to Pam, whale Pamela, you need to Pamela whale? No, seriously. But when he said it I was upset Because I was like yo, he calling me on the carpet and I can't even talk. What you trying to talk I was, I was trying to talk. Let me tell you I was so. You know I'm a talker, so this is so true.
Speaker 4:I was there, and when I couldn't talk, I couldn. You know I'm a talker, so this is so true. I was there, and when I couldn't talk, I couldn't eat or I couldn't swallow or anything Like. I was paralyzed on my left side, the IV or whatever, and I had difficulty swallowing and I really couldn't speak. So I literally stayed up. They kept telling me to go to sleep, they kept trying to put me to sleep, but I was talking, I was trying to talk and I was saying, god, don't take my voice away. Like I really was, like really sounded One of the things that helped me. I was trying to quote scriptures, wow, while I couldn't talk. And next thing, you know I'm talking, I'm talking some stuff. And our lovely bishop, you know what he said to me now, and I was telling him. I was so happy that I could talk, or whatever, I said yeah and I was having a struggle talking.
Speaker 4:He said yeah, I can hear it a little bit. I love Mark Bishop. I said really lucky I could talk, talk.
Speaker 3:You know, you can't really be too serious, yeah, but it may but it may need to tell you to work.
Speaker 4:I'm like, well, if I still need some more work in this talking area, but I said all that to say is that, honestly, if we don't take care of ourselves as parents and parents we cannot parent well you really can't parent well. So I said all that to say it's like, really, there's a mandate on parenting, yes, and in order for us to answer this call, we have to take care of ourselves, and then we have to invest in our kids, and when we talk about protecting our kids, sometimes we got to protect our kids from ourself.
Speaker 3:Because what we do matters, exactly, that's for sure. How we speak, how we respond, how we show up, it matters. It really does matter. And thinking that you're either too loving, it's no such thing right you know, some parents are like oh, I'm too.
Speaker 3:No, you're not right I mean your children will will actually teach you, uh, how to love them right, how to show up for them if you have that line of communication right. You know you said something. You said there's not such thing as too much love it, how to show up for them if you have that line of communication.
Speaker 4:Right, you know you said something. You said there's not such thing as too much love. I think these kids need all the love they could possibly get. There is not such thing as too much love. You know, as a pediatric nurse, one of the things that I crack up with is when people like put that baby down and you spoil them. Well, first of all, they was in the womb all that time and you're just going to throw them out there and say you are on your own. No, you got to cuddle them. You got to still nurture them, you still got to do that stuff with them. And it's not you're spoiling your kids. You love your child. You want to make sure your child from the beginning knows that their love. Mommy got you, daddy got you. I'm always got like you ain't got to be falling and wilding out and all that stuff. I got you. And I think that we got to stop telling parents they're loving their kids too much.
Speaker 3:I feel like some people You're doing too much by telling me that Now, in some aspects, if that baby sleep, lay that baby down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I get that there's a way to do things, but I think you know, even if you had a baby in the first seven days and you telling that mom to put that baby down all the time, I done carried that kid for nine months. Like for real. That kid was in the womb snug, hurt my heartbeat the whole time, so you just going to snatch it away. I used to have a carrier. I don't want to spoil no child.
Speaker 3:And the carrier, and as she got bigger, like I literally would do everything with her on me, Like even to the bathroom, Like I made sure we had a certain kind of bassinet that went in there and I would play songs, because we ain't going to talk about singing.
Speaker 3:My baby loves when I sing, still to this day but I would have her in there and what I would do is I would shower her with me and then I would wrap her up yes, stop, don't do me. And then I would lay her in the back and she was like I'm telling you that baby right there was like the most peaceful. You know, sometimes you try to watch my kid for a little bit.
Speaker 4:They were like nah, I'm going to watch some kids.
Speaker 3:How long Is it an hour? Is it an hour and a half? People used to be like yo y'all need somebody to look after Tori Right?
Speaker 4:Because she was just so kind. I was just laughing, because the reason why I looked at you that way I'm like Dad you couldn't go to the bathroom by yourself, I know. No, because that's part of self-care too. I got to be able to just go in peace and quiet.
Speaker 3:And guess what, neal, you closed that door. What you doing in there? See, that's what I'm saying. You did that. What you doing in there Now, you did that.
Speaker 4:I don't even be caring. Oh, you did that. I do not care what you doing there, minding my business, that's what I'm doing. But that's funny though I think it's so important to really, early on, really have that bond and nurturing that child. Children need their protector and they're safe. That's one of the ways, early on, we can show them that they're protected. I got you, you know, sitting with them, holding them, nurturing them, you know, and there's a time where they need to kind of get off your lap and you get them moving. But that's a process and you're training for that. I think sometimes people want these kids to come out, get out walking and talking, and then when they do that, they talk about they're doing too fast.
Speaker 4:It must be somebody else on the way. You know how to get in your business. You must be got another one coming because this one doing too much. But no, really, we just sit talking and talking, and talking. But it is so funny of how people really view you as a parent, versus checking their own stuff in their parenting. So again, I think tonight's takeaways are there's a mandate on parenting.
Speaker 4:What you do matters, put in the work, put in the work, utilize resources put in the work, tap into those online groups, parenting groups, whatever groups tap into parenting with a purpose.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and don't just be getting information and getting all this information and do nothing with it. Honestly, put in the work. If you don't know where to start, reach out to someone in those groups. Reach out to Pamela, donna, janelle. Like we make ourselves available for these such things that we talk about. So we're not just talking about them to be talking about them Like. We have real life practices. We went through, we've been through some things put together separately, you know, as individuals, but we've came together for a purpose, so that you can know your purpose, you can walk in your purpose and you can fulfill your purpose as parenting intentionally.
Speaker 4:Absolutely. Wow. You see why I got her as a co-host y'all. That was fire, pam. I ain't even had to put no flies on the place over there. That was fire. No, seriously, we really appreciate everybody.
Speaker 4:Tuning in to Parental Purpose, I will say that we do have a Facebook page out there. It is Parental with a Purpose Facebook. You can tap into that page. You can send messages to us. We will get back to you. Anything, any questions you have, any statements you have. Parental with a a purpose is here. We're here to stay. Y'all Like we out here, we in these streets, we in these social media rooms, we are out here because we really want to help you be the best parent that you could possibly be and live in the fullness of parenting.
Speaker 4:We know parenting is a challenge. We know it's a challenge, but we also know that there's beauty in parenting. Yes, there's a lot of beauty and parenting Right now it's a challenge. You know my 18-year-old is in the Marines. Yes, and she's right now, as we speak, is doing the hardest part of the Marines. She's already been there for months and now she's doing what they call the crucible and that thing is 54 hours of work. It's challenging, but I also know on the flip side that there's going to be some beauty, because I can't wait to go down to South Carolina and she graduate and I just hug her because I haven't heard her voice in months. There's challenges in parenting, but there's so much beauty.
Speaker 4:We want you to experience that beauty, that part, right there. We can overcome the challenges and experience the beauty part of it. You can even have beauty in the challenges. So thank you for pouring up, told you my speech will be off. Sometimes go ahead, be like bishop, I hear it okay. Thank you guys for joining parenting with the purpose. I am donna, janelle. We would love for you to tap in um so that we can be a research for you, so we can help you and close us out. Pam, what are we doing? Oh, you said, just spew. You done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so you got our host Donna Janelle, our co-host Pamela. Catch us again next Thursday at 7. And we will have another special guest.
Speaker 4:Thank you guys for joining Parenting with a Purpose.
Speaker 3:Have a great night thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of Parenting with a Purpose.
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