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Fusing Beats with Brainpower A Lyrical Spin on Math Mastery

• Donna Williams • Season 2 • Episode 18

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As I navigated the highs and lows of parenting, from celebrating my daughter's military acceptance to grappling with teenage tribulations, my own triumph in becoming a registered nurse reminded me that our children are always watching, learning from our perseverance. It's this spirit of setting powerful examples that we carry into today's episode, where we're joined by the Finneys, innovators behind Lyrical Math, who have turned a classroom challenge into a hip-hop education sensation. Their story is not just about enhancing engagement; it's a testament to the transformative power of creative thinking and entrepreneurial drive in the world of learning.

Imagine a math class so compelling that students can't wait to participate, where equations flow to the rhythm of a beat. That's the reality Keziah and James Finney have created—with an initiative so impactful, it caught the attention of mathematics authority Dr. Karen Fuson. Our conversation dives into the magnetic draw of Lyrical Math and how it's reshaping the way families approach education. It's not just about making math fun; it's about crafting a learning experience that resonates on a personal level, building confidence, and fostering family bonds through the universal language of music.

In a time when the true academic level of our children can be clouded by the shadows of standardized testing and grade inflation, Lyrical Math emerges as a beacon for parents striving to reclaim control of their child's educational journey. This episode not only highlights the program's unique ability to reach kids from third to eighth grade but also its surprising utility for students beyond the classroom, even aiding parents in professional exams. We're excited to share how Lyrical Math is revolutionizing home learning, and we invite you to tune in and become part of this educational movement that's empowering families and changing the game.

Parents are the Bows and Children are the Arrows they will land wherever we aim them eventually!

Speaker 1

I'm going to have to go to sleep. Thank you, hey everybody. Welcome back to Parenting with a Purpose. I am your host, donna Janelle. You know my job is to bring back the responsibility, nobility and beauty back into parenting. Parents are in their bowls and children are arrows. They will land wherever we send them. Might not be today, might not be tomorrow News flag, it might not even be next year. Eventually it's going to happen. As long as you dress your kids, as long as we give them the tools out so they don't go outside to be naked, because the world will dress them with whatever they want to dress them with. So it's our job and our responsibility as parents To make sure that we dress them appropriately. You know I always got to talk about Something going on with my crew, the fabulous four. Parenting is a hard knockout here and you know parents and teens wait. I think y'all need to do a silent prayer for me, because these teenagers out here they just be testing my inner gangster. So bad, just testing and testing.

Speaker 3

I'm telling you on the daily.

Speaker 1

I told y'all, I think, my 16, she turned 16 yesterday, y'all I think. She woke up and said you know what I'm gonna? Test her today I went in there. I woke up this morning she was like her. She growled at me. Why are you growling at me? Like? Are you an animal or what? Like, uh, you waking me up? Yes, get up and go to school. Right, get up out of my house. So I know, when I was younger, if I probably would have growled at my mom, I probably wouldn't have no teeth right.

Speaker 1

Well, that's probably why I got some dentures in right now, because I did some stuff when.

Speaker 3

I was younger right.

Speaker 1

That's probably what happened, yo, mom, I'm sorry. I understand now. I understand. You say you understand by and by. I understand, right, because, ooh, I want to lay hands, so anyway, so it's been a fabulous week, y'all. My 18-year-old, she was saluted yesterday in Delaware. Salute because she's joining the Marines, oh yes. So they honored her yesterday, you know, with a bunch of other seniors and she was so excited. We had a banquet, she got dressed up, she got to meet some amazing people that served in the armed forces. There was a lot of stuff going on. So we're excited. She's about to graduate, y'all. She's graduating on the 30th and then she's shipping out of here in July.

Speaker 1

Another silent moment, because I'm going to be crying. Y'all know this one right here is very special. This is the one. I got my sister and her husband passed away, so this is one of the oldest ones that I have. For about 10 years now, y'all, I've been parenting for 25 years, but the last 10 years, you know, it's been wild and crazy raising somebody else's children. So she's actually she's the oldest one that I have and she is going out and doing something with her life, like she's doing aviation mechanics. Right, she's in there, she's doing some crazy stuff. So I'm proud of her and excited for her to be walking across that stage, you know, especially with the challenges that she had in her life. So that's enough about me. That's what's going on in my life. Oh, next week is my birthday.

Speaker 3

Next week is my birthday. Next week is my birthday, y'all.

Speaker 1

So that's another exciting thing. I'll be here next week yes, I'm doing a show on my birthday. And what else is going on in my life, my life? Y'all know I just finished school, right, we celebrated a couple weeks ago. I just finished school, I am now a registered nurse, after being an LPN for 17 years, and I always talk about that because, you know, when we talk about parenting right, parenting with a purpose, right, and our kids need to be able to see what we go through in life and be able to be for they could be encouraged and motivated to continue to be the best that they can be, right.

Speaker 1

So how can their children learn to? Let they be led by example? So I try to be example. So I always kind of mention the things, the accomplishments that I have, and my children are able to see them. So they too can be great as well. Um, whatever great is in your family, you know, it ain't got to be nurses, they ain't got to be doctors. Listen, she could be an aviation mechanic. I ain't never thinking about that, right, but it's good stuff.

Speaker 2

We know some black aviators too in Delaware See, oh, what's up?

Speaker 1

Yes, so tonight y'all we got special guests. We gonna put an S on here. Tonight we got the Finners. Mr and Mrs. Alright, tell us about yourself, tell us why you're here, tell us what you do, what you do, what you do, what you do. We do a whole lot, ladies first, ladies first.

Speaker 3

So my name is Keziah Finney. I'm known as Mrs Finney because I've been a teacher for just my 21st year.

Speaker 3

Certified math and science teacher in Delaware. I've taught in Chester, pa, for eight years in Delaware for 12. Born in Chester, pa, raised in Newcastle, delaware, got my starting with teaching in Chester, pa, village Charter School, represent. Come on through, it was a moment, it was good, you know. And so with my experience I've learned a lot and I've taken a lot of skills that I picked up, you know, growing up, one being music. So I've I'm from a very musical family all kind of genres I mean, from gospel to R&B to hip hop, and so I picked up on hip hop. I was in a church choir when I was younger, shiloh Baptist Church, represent. Oh, shiloh, ok, I was in there. They got me right. But, yeah, that was my first time on a mic. And so, going forward, you know, I was doing hip hop, I was rapping, like you know, growing up, with my brothers, three of them rapped out of four.

Speaker 1

And so when I became a teacher.

Speaker 3

I used hip hop to connect with my students, and so I was's like, let me teach the way they told me to teach. And so I did it, and we was all in there crashing like this is boring. Okay, I'm like wait, if I'm bored, they bored this, this is trash not the teacher saying I'm bored, not the teacher saying I'm bored but you was feeling you was bored, I'm bored yo like.

Speaker 3

I'm teaching and I'm bored like I'm doing the most talking and I'm bored, something, something wrong with this, something's wrong. And you see the kids crashing in the bathroom. You're like, yeah, this is ineffective, like I wouldn't even want to learn like this. So I would just make up songs, you know, make up hip hop songs and they would be related to the content, and so then the kids would get engaged, they'd listen to it. Engaged, they listen to it. They'd be like, wow, okay, I get it, I can memorize it. That's in the form of music, right. And then, um, they would take it and we would apply it to the lesson. It would, it would help them know what to do when it came time for testing, and so that was something I was doing. Um, just in my beginning, the stages of teaching, I met my husband, and that just took it to a whole other level because he has business mind, kudos, woo-woo, business mind business, mind.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying, like while I'm the person that's like ooh, I like teaching, I like rapping, I'm just all high, high, high high. He's like yo, let's get paid for that.

Speaker 1

Wait a minute, Like you got skills.

Speaker 3

You got something we can do something with that that's right. Yes, and so he can tell you more on what happened after. You know, it was like a couple light bulbs that came off of him when he was doing his senior project.

Speaker 2

Oh man, you want to take it from there. That tied those skills in, okay, okay.

Speaker 3

And that will tell you how we got to where we are All right.

Speaker 1

Okay, okay, pass the mic, there you go, there you go, mr Finney. Come on, pass the torch, okay.

Speaker 2

Yes, so let's see, okay. Yeah, so my name is James Finney, director of operations for JFIN TV Studios, which is an edutainment production company.

Speaker 1

Edutainment.

Lyrical Math

Speaker 2

We educate, but more importantly, we entertain right, right, no, we entertain, but more importantly we educate. We entertain right? No, we entertain, but more importantly we educate. So let me see how we got Lyrical Math started. I met my wife. I was courting her at the time.

Speaker 1

Oh he old school. He said I was courting her. I didn't hear that word in life.

Speaker 3

You ain't heard it in a while. I bring it back. No, he's courting.

Speaker 2

So yeah, she was working at Chester Community. Charter so yeah, she was. Uh, she was working at chester community charter and, um, you know, when I met her, she said she's a teacher. And I'm like okay, I can see myself marrying a teacher. And then she said I'm a rapper, like what that means? How does that work? So, um, yeah, he's like flag on the play.

Speaker 1

Flag on the play. Wait a minute, man down, man down.

Speaker 2

But I mean like I saw her teach and I hated math growing up right. Okay, high school CD student and I saw her teach and I was, it hit me, it's like, oh, she can teach. And then I heard her rap. I said, oh, she can rap, wow.

Speaker 1

Hmm.

Speaker 2

Right, I had that light bulb moment so I remember I pitched it to her. I picked her up. I think I took her to lunch on our break one day and I said, yo, you should be a hip hop math teacher. She was like that's corny, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1

I said yo that was the word you needed. I said, but wait. I said, but wait.

Speaker 2

I said but wait right, it's a wide open lane. Now he got the stance Like wait a minute, I had to sell her and you know like she had to sit on it for like a year, yeah. So then she finally came around.

Speaker 3

I was like, okay, I don't know if this senior project was like during that year. No, no, no, that was later, that was like during that year.

Speaker 1

No no, no, that was later. That was later. Yeah, yeah, he remember, he remember, but it's a dope story though.

Speaker 2

So you know, moving forward, I had to do a senior project now and I was going to do a documentary on two different leaders that we all know about it's controversial. It was going to be a documentary on Martin Luther King versus Hitler. Know about it's controversial? I don't. It was going to be a documentary on martin luther king versus hitler okay and what's the similarities and what's the differences?

Speaker 3

because they both leaders right right.

Speaker 2

She was like don't do that, why don't you just do a math video? I said that's boring. If I do a math video it gotta be funny, right? So we did it. So we did a uh, five minute and 20 minute, five minute and 20 second video called adding integers after school. And in this video we shot it at my uh school shout out the Wilmington University.

Speaker 2

Um, she played the teacher and she played the student oh yeah, and so what we did was we had we, we elaborated, we exaggerated everything a student does in class like she was teaching and the student was yeah, she was eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, not paying attention. Um, she was snoring and drool coming out her mouth all that she was on her acting game yes, yes, I had. I had to prep her y'all I had to direct her.

Speaker 2

But, um, thank god she took my direction and, um, how to? How the video ended. Uh, wrapped up. Uh, the teacher said you know what, let me hit it this way. And so she wrapped the, the math concept. And then the student was like, oh wow, don't shoot. She got it right. And so you know, needless to say, five minutes, 20 second video, I got an a on it as my senior project. I'm done my obligation for the university, right?

Speaker 2

right, right she says yo, I'm teaching added integers next week at my school. Can I use your video? I said sure. So what she did was she created a pre-test and then she gave it to all three of her classes.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 2

And then they watched the five minute 20 second video.

Speaker 3

Then she gave them a post-test yo to gauge comprehension right, yo dig this.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's it. So what happened was her lowest performing class got a 61.7 increase in comprehension for added integers with a five minute and 20 second yo. So I said that night how many people you want to help what you say? As many as we can. That's how we. That was the the beginning of what we created now, which is lyrical math we got a student workbook, a teacher guide book, a resource assessment book. We got a full-on curriculum and you know I gotta share this this is, um, I'm just liking it the cover.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, it took eight years to get to this point.

Speaker 2

This is yeah, this is the third and final draft. Like we literally paid attention and listened to our students like we had a student two years ago when we were receiving state data. We ran a pilot at a east side charter school in delaware, but one of our students was like mr finney, you don't have no students with dreads. I said, we got you, so we made sure we made one of our students yeah relate to him right so all these characters, you see, literally, we heard from our students.

Speaker 2

This is what they. They was like yeah, put these, put this, put this fit on them, right, put these, put these kicks yo.

Speaker 1

This is a like a serious, like a serious classroom. This is like what you get every day a mixture of everybody. Yes, and that's what we need. Kids should feel representation. Yes, talk they should feel dang.

Speaker 2

somebody thought about me when I'm learning Like somebody actually cares right Right. And this I got to tell you I feel like we are the new FUBU oh okay, because you know FUBU was for us, by us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's lyrical math.

Speaker 2

Like a teacher, built this for teachers with students in mind. Like so many, I feel like I'm getting a little off topic, but I got to share this so many times. She used to come to the house and be like yo. My coworker was like Miss Finney, you doing too much. Stop this man.

Speaker 3

You making us look bad.

Speaker 2

I told her yo, you too big for that school, you too big for them walls. She used to have janitors, cafeteria cafeteria workers, just people that most would like overlook, but they'd be like yo, you too big for this place. Yeah, you know what I mean. So we've been eight years strong. We retired her from the classroom three years ago we full time with this now. Oh man, yeah, we can go anywhere tomorrow wow, yeah like we'd be on the first thing smoking if the opportunity present. You know what?

Speaker 1

I mean we want to be where the need is. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I'm fortunate, I'm glad to say we data-proven, research-based and let's see we were in what? 10 schools, three community centers last year yeah, schools, three community centers last year. And we're just looking to expand and have long-lasting, fruitful relationships with organizations and, to be honest, with you. This Teacher Guidebook is scripted so you could be a janitor and as long as you care about kids, you can effectively implement lyrical math.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and the online platform is oh, yeah, turn this around.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, turn this drone, turn this drone around. Can we, can, we, can we highlight this right here look, you know what's crazy can we highlight this? I want you to do this really quickly please, all right pick a yes, page, pick a page, pick a page, pick a page right.

Speaker 3

So this imagine, this is your child, right you? Can take that page don't even matter.

Speaker 2

Yeah, as soon as I open up any page right right all right well let me see, let me look around any page any page, any page so this platform, as you pick in the page we have, miss finney is teaching every page in the book right. So essentially, what we did was we created a way for parents to have a certified math teacher in their house.

Speaker 1

Wait, wait, wait. Flag on the play man man. Man, man, wait, you said I need you to repeat that statement again. All right, no doubt.

Speaker 2

Okay, so what we did was we created an online academy that now allows anybody to have access to a certified math teacher, award winning hip hop math teacher in the comfort of their own home.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 2

It's literally the Netflix of math. That's what it is we fool boo we Netflix.

Speaker 1

We take it over, we take it over. I mean, it's just to do with Dominique. Come on now.

Speaker 2

So we giving everybody the option who has a desire to want to see kids succeed in math.

Speaker 1

That part right there. Everyone an option, who has a desire to see kids succeed in math. No matter who you are, if you have the desire to see kids succeed in math.

Speaker 2

We here, we want all the smoke, wow, okay. So what page did you pick?

Speaker 1

Page 75.

Speaker 2

I got Mia. Oh, okay, what lesson is?

Speaker 1

this. Let's see what lesson is this.

Speaker 3

It's a you know.

Speaker 1

Dividing fractions. Dividing fractions.

Speaker 3

So she's in a student seat right now.

Speaker 2

She's a student right now, so we're going to go, we're going to click here, we're going to go to lesson four. I want y'all to see how simple this is. We are on what is this and this again.

Speaker 3

This is not just for schools and organizations, this is for home as well. So if you're a parent, that's like look, my child needs a little extra help with math, for whatever reason, that's like look, my child needs a little extra help with math, for whatever reason Right, you can get lyricalmathonlinecom. Get that in your home. You have the username and password. It'll bring you right to this site.

Speaker 3

This is what you'll get mailed to your house and you know you can set your child up to use the platform anytime you want. To say I want my child to do 30 minutes a day Monday, wednesday, friday Then it's almost like bringing a teacher into your house it is this is lit because, you know, most schools took away homework right come on now.

Speaker 1

Most schools took away their homework, so a lot of times I feel like that's why a lot of kids are still struggling right now particularly in math because they need extra help at home. And a lot of the parents again don't understand the math that was going on. So I mean the fact that I'm going to get a certified teacher in my house. You ain't got to say nothing else to me.

Speaker 3

I didn't even have to leave the house, I didn't have to get off the couch.

Speaker 1

Oh man, that thing just pulled up like that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

I didn't have to get gas in my car to drive to some community center to drop my kid off and wait in the parking lot for 30 minutes to an hour to get math tutoring. Like skip all that.

Speaker 1

Skip all that, skip it.

Math Legend Endorses Lyrical Math

Speaker 2

Just have it in your house. 2023. We got an endorsement, a big endorsement, with um dr karen fusan, and that name might not ring a bell to a lot of people, but she is, I would say, the mj of math. Okay, right, she was. She was a part of the team that created the common core standards that the country is governed by okay, okay, so she out there she, she's, she's at.

Speaker 2

She retired. She retired from Northwestern University. She living her best life in California right now. But the reason why I'm bringing her up is because she saw Lyrical Math and she said I want to be a part of this. So she's in our book. We got a PhD, a doctor that endorsed our book. She's an advisor of lyrical math. I just want everybody to know the time and attention we put in this to ensure that it's right for our kids.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not just doing anything at them, not at all.

Speaker 2

It took eight years to get this, this is the third and final draft of Lyrical man.

Speaker 1

Wow, okay, okay, so you on page 75.

Speaker 2

And if you can see it says lesson intro page 74,. Character profile page 75. So what's dope about our program is we have 12 different unique characters and we hit out on six different ethnicities, and so each character. What's interesting is the characters are related to other characters in the book. Oh, okay, like a family. It's like a big family.

Speaker 3

Like your cousin might be in fifth grade and you look so great.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My older cousin, she in fifth grade upstairs.

Speaker 1

I'm in third down here oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, we put it in there and what's what's cool about it is the character.

Speaker 2

Characters. No, the students get to learn about the characters and the word problems, yeah. So, um, we made a lot of connections when we put this together, so here I'm gonna play this the, the connector pieces that we wanted to do, which is typically missing in most math curriculums.

Speaker 3

Like the math curriculums, are just giving you math. Right, they're just teaching you math, and so that's what doesn't connect right it's like I have to sit in this room. I have to learn math for 10 months. What does that have to do with me? Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and let's show.

Speaker 1

That's always the question.

Speaker 2

They always say that Like I remember sitting there in school.

Speaker 1

So what that got to do with me Right, why Exactly? Pythagorean theorem why?

Speaker 2

I'm not making no clothes, why?

Speaker 1

I need no lips what we doing in here. What are we doing and why? A times B, times C and all?

Speaker 3

that junk Like what's going on? What can I do with my check?

Speaker 1

I see it now in the nursing, though I see algebra now in the nursing, but the years later right.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's like Before.

Speaker 3

I.

Speaker 2

Me, me, me in the mold, all that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, you seen it in nursing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, we had a parent email us because she bought the album, maybe like six years ago, for her maybe fifth or sixth graders uh, fifth or sixth grader. And then she emailed us because she said I'm taking my nursing exam and I heard the mean median mode track and that helped me. I was, we didn't know.

Speaker 1

The application of lyrical math can go as far as nursing yeah, I'm telling you as y'all were talking, I'm sitting here thinking I remember my classmates like struggling in doses calculation and like you fail out if you don't pass dose calculation.

Speaker 3

Right, and I'm just saying Then I messed that dose up. Yeah, yeah, yeah You're finna kill somebody out here Life or death For real.

Speaker 1

Get the math right.

Speaker 2

It ain't. No, oops, I'm sorry, it's the right spot. I'm in the ad.

Speaker 1

I'm in the ad I had them zeros in front of that. Seriously, it ain't no joke, but it's a struggle out there. Right, right but. I'm thinking like my head started clicking Like yo, if they had this stuff right here, like it would be so much it would be yeah, the songs is dope they.

Speaker 3

The songs is dope they catchy, but I like what you just said, though you said the connecting piece Right, and the connector piece is like so, instead of it just being math, like I'm learning about multiplying fractions, Instead of it just being that, it's like okay, before you even touch the math, who are the characters that's going to be with you in the multiplying fractions lesson?

Speaker 2

Oh, we're going to have Kyraaira and mia.

Speaker 3

They're gonna be there, and then you're gonna see their character profile before you even start talking about math right, so we learn about, so it almost takes your mind off math that you're learning about math but you're making a social emotional connection because maybe I share the same interests as Mia or Kyra or Miguel, maybe I have the same family background as them. You know Right and so once you dive into this character profile, we're going to jump into, like some vocabulary, words related, and then we're going to jump into procedural explanation, which is what we call old math.

Speaker 3

Right, but then we also hit them with the new math, which is conceptual. So we're covering everything that the schools want the kids to learn Common core. You have to learn procedurally, you have to learn conceptually, you have to learn real-world application. We cover all of it, but then we add the social-emotional piece, plus the music which is going to help with the recall.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we recently were told, though, our curriculum is skilled-based, not grade-based, which is good, because that sticks with you.

Speaker 1

So that's not like one of those things we keep saying to Tick Sock. So if Johnny had four apples? How many apples would Johnny have Johnny?

Speaker 2

wants some money.

Speaker 1

You know, and it's crazy because when you think about math, right, and you think about the frustration of math in kids, particularly in an African-American Talk- yes, talk. That whole thing and everybody's laughing at Johnny right because he couldn't get it, and then his mom popping upside his head because she really ain't get it either, right.

Speaker 3

I'm just saying I'm going to just act like it's you, yeah, yeah, yeah Like exactly.

Speaker 1

That's how you look at that whole thing.

Speaker 3

That's right, it really wasn't just.

Speaker 1

Johnny, it was the mom, it was the family, absolutely. And everybody's laughing at Johnny because Johnny can't figure out this three, this four.

Speaker 2

And the parents can't figure about it. That's the cover up. I want to share to that point what I appreciate about our community that we're building. They're interactive with us. We have parents send us videos. In particular, a dad sent us a video of his son learning from Miss Finney. He had his book in his lap, he had the laptop on the sofa. His mom was right next to him. They were looking at Miss Finney. He had his book in his lap.

Speaker 1

He had the laptop on the sofa, his mom was right next to him and they were looking at Miss Finney teach through the book. So that's bringing families together.

Speaker 2

Yes, the mom was learning, the son was learning, the dad was learning.

Speaker 3

So it's no longer about who knows.

Speaker 1

Yes, right.

Speaker 3

Like why you don't remember what your teacher told you. Like it's not even about Do you have homework tonight? And the kid's saying no. The family's trying to discover If he lying or not yeah.

Speaker 2

The whole research project, or are you?

Speaker 3

lying or not. Right, you know what I mean. Like, just skip all that, let's just work on some math together.

Speaker 2

That's it as a family.

Speaker 1

And I don't need to challenge you.

Speaker 3

You don't need to feel like the parent that forgot math. Just trying to play it off like I know and I'm just trying to make sure you know Right.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying. Like we don't got to play the mind games.

Speaker 3

You know we can just all learn together at the same time.

Speaker 2

So my background is in studio production, digital filmmaking, as I shared earlier. So I directed her on where I wanted her to go with these videos and, to be honest, I just told her go in there, have a good time. So she I mean her personality comes through these videos.

Speaker 1

It's not remember those, uh, that guy for dry eyes, try it ain't nothing like that yo you dating yourself up in here a little bit I'm an old soul? I'm an old soul, but what I'm?

Speaker 2

saying is like the students they get to learn about her. And she takes the intimidation Out of numbers.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And so like they'll walk away like Yo, miss Finney's silly, yeah, she's funny, but I just learned something.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

We literally had students tell us Yo, miss Finney, you made my day, and she didn't see this girl for like five months.

Speaker 3

I never. I was not her teacher, I was not the facilitator no, this was an after school program in wilmington. These kids come from various schools. They had the lyrical math program there as a math resource and then they had two teachers that were actually substitutes at a local school that were running an after school program. They come in there, they push play on the video.

Speaker 2

That's it Push play.

Speaker 3

They open the book and they sit down and they're learning.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 3

So I was teaching her, but I wasn't physically present.

Speaker 2

Right. So when we saw her, yes, when we saw her. So they invited her out to a community center and they asked the CEO of the community center said does anyone want to give a testimony about lyrical math? Talking to the kids, and she opened up, man, she started crying. I did she was like you know what I be in school sometime they be like ugh. But then when I look at your videos I be like oh man, she funny.

Speaker 2

You be making my day and I'll be learning she's, I'll be learning stuff that's what's up that's, that's the, that's the culture that we created when we made these videos.

Speaker 3

We had her in mind when we created these videos and we really want to fix, um, you know, the issue of parents feeling as though they they they have no access to helping their yes right right, right, helpless, yeah, you know over the past few years, like when we were growing up, you had homework minimum four nights a week.

Speaker 1

Right, right.

Speaker 3

Maybe Friday was off, depending on your teacher. You're like yo, ms Jones, don't?

Speaker 2

get homework. I ain't never had Friday at all.

Speaker 1

Yeah, sometimes you have that week at home Like five days, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

But the thing is like over the years in recent years, you know, it became this big pushback for homework because, now it's like well, homework's not fair because she lives in a household with supportive parents that may assist her with homework.

Speaker 3

And she lives in a household with parents that aren't supportive, so they're both turning in work and she's obviously going to get a good grade and she's not going to get a good grade. And this is the dilemma, Instead of the schools trying to find a way to solve that and still make people have homework right. I mean, even if it's like three questions, three questions take five minutes, you just need to have a refresher.

Speaker 3

Instead of saying we want to provide a platform, maybe a video platform, maybe ask your teacher to upload a video, you know, to the school site of her reviewing the homework questions. Right, real quick stuff. You ain't got to put your face on the screen. If you're a teacher, you don't want to be on camera.

Speaker 3

You know, the schools never came up with a solution to ensure that both types of students could have, solution to ensure that both types of students could have what they did. Is that well forget? It nobody does homework. Because we want to be fair, let's take homework off the table. So generally, most kids now never have homework because they didn't find a solution to support homework with all this technology. Yeah, you know this whole time. You know, you know it's like I but that's not the you know.

Speaker 2

it's like I'm sorry, what was you want to say?

Speaker 1

I would say the whole time I thought the reason why they removed homework is because you got my child eight hours a day and you can't teach them like what they need to learn. You should be able to do that in eight hours and you trying to expect me to, because a.

Speaker 2

And then when we reteach them the way we know, they come back feeling confident, ready to go, and the teacher's like, yeah, you got the right answer, but how'd you get there? And they're like well, I did this, well, you got to show it this way.

Speaker 1

So it's wrong Wow.

Speaker 2

It's not wrong.

Speaker 3

Instead of fixing, instead of trying to solve, they just took the whole thing off the table, took it off the table, but that left opportunity for people like us, right. So now, like parents, like you, don't really know what your kid is learning in school. Which takes the power away from the parents Away from the parents?

Speaker 2

Yes, because at least you could.

Speaker 3

At least if your child came home, what did we have? A homework folder.

Speaker 1

Right, yeah, yeah and.

Speaker 3

And most parents be like, put your homework photo on the kitchen table when you get home.

Speaker 2

Let me go ahead and put this up right here. And you knew what happened in school.

Speaker 3

You ain't need an email. You ain't need a parent calling you or a teacher calling you. Open up the homework photo.

Speaker 2

This is what you did in English. This is what you did in math and you knew you get what I'm saying and then, if you, could help.

Speaker 1

you could help, but when they took that off the table you don't know what your kid learning for 10 months. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, man. Wow, wow, wow. We don't need to think about it like that. No, they took, they took. And I think parents was like cool that the fact that they had to do no homework because they ain't got to be frustrated right now, you know, especially if you already got, like other, concerns and issues that you're having in your household.

Speaker 3

You get household. Then it's like, well, at least homework ain't a problem.

Speaker 1

So we thought that was a help for us, the fact that we didn't have to do no homework.

Speaker 2

It was a detriment. No, it was a detriment, a huge detriment.

Empowering Parents in Education

Speaker 1

Oh man, because it took away. I was bamboozled, man Right, we were all bamboozled, we all were.

Speaker 2

And you know what, just to talk about that, the back, feel how soft that is. Go ahead, feel that Don't touch it, just touch it. This one, right here, it's this velvet.

Speaker 2

It's this velvet, mr Finsley, mr Finsley but all, right, so we got these fancy postcards, but it's the back that's really important to the topic we're talking about right now. Right, so we hear a lot of this with conversations with parents. This conversation goes on the back of this postcard. It's a text message and it goes something like this my child is doing great in math. Happy face emoji. Are they on grade level? They?

Speaker 2

just made honor roll. That's awesome, right. Clap hands, congrats, balloon, hooray, right. But are they on grade level Question mark? I'm not sure. How do I find that out? Right, to find out if your child is on his or her grade level, watch this Simply request A copy of their most recent Math state test score.

Speaker 2

From the school principal. Right there, we just empower parents on what to do. What happened is the bamboozle comes from this I'm not saying all schools, I'm not saying all districts, but, post-covid, our students are two to three grade levels behind in every state, a large amount of students every state in this country. So what did the schools do to defuse the backlash they were going to receive from parents? They taught their the parents children two to three grade levels behind. So my child made honor roll. My child is doing great in math, but are they on level? The only way to find that out is through the state test scores, because if your child's in fifth grade but they really on second grade math level, they can teach them on second grade all throughout the year. To shut the parents up, make them they come to the honor roll, assemblies, all that, but when they come to state testing they test on fifth grade.

Speaker 1

Flag on the play.

Speaker 2

Man down, we got another flag.

Speaker 1

Man down, we got another flag.

Speaker 2

Man down.

Speaker 1

Are you serious, so serious?

Speaker 3

Yes, so serious and, like a lot of parents, aren't even realizing it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know what, when those state testers come in the mail like people just start tossing to the side like I don't care about that, what the school say to my kids knowing.

Speaker 2

And the schools know you toss them to the side.

Speaker 1

Y'all hear that parents Don't toss those things to the side.

Speaker 3

They send you. In the summertime they come out.

Speaker 2

Don't let them bamboozle us. It's a division sign in the table. Oh, he's meant to be here. I can't with y'all.

Speaker 1

Y'all see what she about. To make a lyric.

Speaker 2

She about to rap About this division sign. You gonna definitely have to kick some bars. You gotta get some bars.

Speaker 1

And then she about to make a lyric out of it. She about to rap about this.

Speaker 2

Oh, you're going to have to kick up. You're going to definitely have to kick some bars. You got to get some bars.

Speaker 1

But go back to where we was going right. There's a lot of meat in here y'all tonight. Come on now. Y'all better watch this over and over and over again.

Speaker 2

Come on now we here.

Speaker 1

All right, so so Mia on page 75.

Speaker 3

We're iPods in the air.

Speaker 2

What kind of sneakers she got on what's she got?

Speaker 1

She got ones on Air.

Speaker 2

Force.

Speaker 3

Ones I'm like they Air Force Ones Shout out to our daughter Nasaya. She's in college at North Carolina A&T for fashion, merchandise and design. She put the drip on all these characters.

Speaker 1

Put the drip on all these characters, okay, characters, yeah, okay, that's what somebody.

Speaker 2

I can never have. So we personal hot spotting him right now. Okay, let me see what.

Speaker 3

See if it come up. Well, yeah, yeah, it should come up. That'd be good. Yeah, but while this is low, let me know when they stop chatting.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 3

But on another note, another thing parents need to be aware of when in school, right, if we did not do an assignment, what grade did we get?

Speaker 2

a zero, a zero a zero right, if you don't come to work, right, you don't get paid.

Speaker 3

You don't get paid for that day. In schools they are telling teachers almost in all, like so many schools, like hey, I'm not about to sit here and say 100 of schools do this, this, but every teacher I know. They're in this situation, right, where the school is saying if the child gets a zero, if they don't turn it in, you have to give the child a 50%.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 3

So what this does is this prevents too many kids from failing too far behind, too many kids from failing too far behind. And so the argument for that was well, we don't want to make it too hard to bring the grade up, because if you have, say, seven, zeros.

Speaker 1

Alright we'll get back to that.

Speaker 2

So again. So we have a student here, and this student turned to page 75. There's a video for page 75. We'll a video for page 75. We'll be clicking right here. This is nice.

Speaker 3

I love it. What's up, scholars? We are here for lesson four Divided Fractions. This is a cue.

Speaker 3

Wear your student workbook, on page 74, with the one and only Mia. Let's check out her character profile page on page 75. We'll see you there. So you got to see this. They can't feel, but they want to be Mia. Tell them fall back because they know they can't feel. They can't feel, but they want to be Mia. Tell them fall back because they know they can't feel. Go, mia. Move to our workbook, page 75 for Mia's character profile page Right Hold up there, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I see that's sick. Yeah, that's a good thing, mm-hmm, check her out. She is the most fun too.

Speaker 3

Oh, that sound like my daughter and all the things that she was trying to say good words say, is solid mind control when performing and is awesome personality. Her mutual inspiration comes from both her family members, djs and fans and a young internet rapper, and she's a great person. She's a great person. She's a great, awesome personality. Her musical inspiration comes from music and a young internet graphic communication, whose videos she rocks constantly through her brother in the internet.

Speaker 1

Mia is learning how to rock the mic. She is learning how to rock the mic right.

Speaker 3

Let's check out our vocabulary page for Divine Pregnancy. She is learning how to rock the mic. Right. Let's check out our vocabulary page For Dividing Fractions.

Speaker 1

I'll see you there.

Speaker 3

That's the start of Dividing Fractions.

Speaker 2

That's, it.

Speaker 1

Storylines Yo, yes, yeah, I feel like I wanna learn this again. I wanna learn. I feel like, come on, let's Dividing Fractions again, right?

Speaker 2

Right right.

Speaker 3

And that's not even the math, that's just a startup. That's already got me engaged Right.

Speaker 1

Like I don't wanna. You know I always, a lot of times, I'm telling you I'm just like Woo. I'm in awe with this Because One of the things that I usually try to help my kids with when they don't understand something, I tell them to go to YouTube University.

Speaker 2

Come on, we all students.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean I'm on his list. I learned a lot of stuff from YouTube, but the fact that there's a program like I'm just Wow, like literally just connecting with Mia just now, like I know her cousin Miguel.

Speaker 3

I'm part of the family now.

Speaker 1

She like what I like. You know I like. And then we didn't even get to the math part yet, but you kept me so engaged that I'm ready to learn some math.

Speaker 2

But you know it's also dope. I'm glad you mentioned YouTube University.

Speaker 1

It's a great platform but at the same time it's community-based right yeah, I say that to say you got parents that I need to know what my child looking at. Yeah, right, that's the thing.

Speaker 2

That's why I like this you can trust the brand you can respect the brand because it come from a certified, award winning hip-hop math teacher right so you ain't gonna get no poison in the teaching, right? You know I'm saying stuff that make a parent be like what, what, you, what did, what did I just hear, right?

Speaker 3

right right. There's the ad coming up Right right.

Speaker 2

But they teaching me I get all that, but I ain't like what I just heard, Right right right.

Speaker 1

That you're not going to get that over here Teaching at what cost Exactly Right? So Like not everybody know how to Sure man, wow, wow, wow so the platform.

Speaker 2

oh yeah, just to share. This can be. It's on the laptop here, but it could be the phone. We could pull it up on our phones right now. It could be on the iPad, right yeah, anywhere you can get you have internet, you can have these videos.

Speaker 1

Wow, this is what's up, and it's built in too.

Speaker 2

So we have the online academy is built in pre and post tests. So when you enroll your child, how it starts, you get an intro video of Miss Finney introducing the curriculum, excited, welcoming you, and then it cuts to a short clip of a music video she shot. So they're like yo, she got bars, yo, she a real artist. And so then from the music video video, it goes into the first lesson and so first character.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the first lesson. It starts with a pre-test. That's how we built it, right, remember from the 5 minute 20 second video, right? So we do a pre-test and then they go through the course. Videos follow along in a book and then it goes to a post-test to unlock the next lesson all right, let me ask you a question what if you so?

Speaker 1

what do you say to a parent who say, well, why they have to learn it with music and lyrics and stuff, why we can't teach them the old way, or you know, why do we have? What if I want my kids to know rap? Or what if I want my kids you know like why?

Hip-Hop Math Education Program

Speaker 3

I love that question. It's a great question so here's the thing we do teach the old way. So that check that box right, okay so the way that you learn procedurally, we got, you got that part also. We teach through music, not because it's hip-hop, you know whether it's like uh has a positive impression on you or not. You know everybody has their different opinions about hip hop right, but music can be used for good right. I mean, you learned your ABCs through music.

Speaker 1

We all did. Was that a good experience?

Speaker 3

Yeah, so it can be used for good. So we use the genre of hip hop because it's literally the number one genre, right?

Speaker 2

In the world. It's literally the number one genre right in the world.

Speaker 3

yeah, it's literally the number one. Yeah, so most students they know hip-hop songs, so we want to meet them where they are there you go, like paul in the bible want to meet them where they are. So, yeah, so but wait.

Speaker 2

More importantly, hip-hop, remember hip-hop, it breeds confidence right right. That's the science behind it. It literally is the only genre that breeds confidence like it's Right. That's the science behind it. It literally is the only genre that breeds confidence, that breeds confidence Like.

Speaker 3

It's the only genre where you like I'm the best that ever did it. I'm always committed Oof. You know what I'm saying? Whatever Right, it's the only one where someone is constantly bragging about how dope they are. Yo All so if you take the fact that hip hop is constantly telling you you're the best, you're the best, you're the best, and let's put that with math.

Speaker 2

You on the lyrics page right here. Go ahead and rap that real quick.

Speaker 3

So this is dividing fractions.

Speaker 2

Keep Change Flip.

Speaker 3

Keep Change. Flip is the title, and so it says new objective. The goal is dividing fractions. Take this lesson and put these methods to action. First step if you see a mixed number of fractions, take the necessary steps and change them to a proper fraction. Then you keep the first fraction the same. Say what? Then? You keep the first fraction the same.

Speaker 2

Say what.

Speaker 3

Then you keep the first fraction the same. Say what? Then? You keep the first fraction the same. Change that division sign to a time sign. Change that division sign to a time sign.

Speaker 2

That's right.

Speaker 3

Change that. That's right. Come on, flip the last fraction. Flip the last fraction.

Speaker 2

Flip the last fraction.

Speaker 3

Flip the last fraction. Flip the last fraction. Flip the last fraction.

Speaker 2

Come on, flip the last fraction.

Speaker 1

Tell it, tell it, come on, tell it.

Speaker 3

Multiply, like you know you should, okay, tell it. That's right, okay, come on Multiply, like you know you should, okay.

Speaker 2

Keep change flip. Keep change flip.

Speaker 3

And so when you hear this, right, and then you see this.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, come on.

Speaker 1

If we go to, worksheet number one.

Speaker 3

these kids just had a ball with that and actually you know what? Let's actually play her.

Speaker 2

The lyric video.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so you can see.

Speaker 2

Okay, so that was acapella right.

Speaker 3

I want you to hear it with the beat and see it with the music video.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and we have ten lessons in our curriculum, ten lessons.

Speaker 3

So this changes everything I'm already changed.

Speaker 1

She said change has come today Mara. Luther King said change one day, one day.

Speaker 2

One day, Miss Finney, my hip-hop math teacher Right.

Speaker 1

Yo.

Speaker 3

And so you know, in this experience right.

Speaker 1

You just made me think I can rap.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you can, you can, you are them things Yo, because in this particular case, right, you're going to catch you with your ears, yeah. Right and then, with the video, you're engaged with your eyes Right.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 3

And it's just going to build recall, that's all it is. That's way better than me standing in front of the classroom saying today we're going to do four and a half divided by one and one third Right, and you looking at me like oh all right?

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right. I see you at lunchtime when I wake up. Here she go.

Speaker 2

So this is a lyric video. We purposely made them lyric videos because we want them to visually see the words with the music.

Speaker 3

Yes, yeah, right, right. See the words with the music yes, yeah, right. And so I want you to pause here and just take her to worksheet number one because we heard the lyrics right. So if you go to worksheet number one, you'll see how we take the pages.

Speaker 3

Worksheet number one 86, right and so now, all right, we learned it procedurally in the procedural explanation. We learned it concept. We learned it procedurally In the procedural explanation. We learned it conceptually. We learned it through the music. Now let's apply all that and actually do a worksheet together, and so I'm literally on screen walking through the worksheet. So take the weight off the parent, you in the house with your child. With this program, you don't have to know how to divide nothing.

Speaker 2

Nope.

Speaker 1

You're going to want to learn though You're going to want to learn, though You're going to want to learn, but this is what this music is Right, but you can just sit there with your kid and know that they are learning Right. Right.

Speaker 3

And so that's how we want to encourage parents.

Speaker 2

We taking you through the journey right now.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, man, I'm not Sorry.

Speaker 2

Don't apologize for being yourself Unapologetic self.

Speaker 3

Listen to this voice. I ain't know. This is this. I was in a car.

Speaker 2

If you ain't laughing with her, you laughing at her I'm making Charlotte look bad right now.

Speaker 3

Why we pick this one you ain't laughing with her, you laughing at her. I think it's trying to look bad right now why we pick this one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I didn't pick it, I did. That's your hip-hop math teacher, y'all. That's your hip-hop math teacher, yo it could be a hip-hop, maybe.

Speaker 3

Maybe Try not to sound like a bad kid. I need you to write the verse though. Write the verse. I know I did that. Oh man, we can do this because we know how to keep change what. So here we go. Wrap it out, what, no objective. The goal is to find fractions. Take the first step and you see the mixed number fraction. Take the necessary steps and change it too. Did you say improper fractions? Let's go. We were going to do what? Four times ten is forty. The last two is forty two.

Speaker 1

So this is going to be. Somebody said I wish I had this growing up.

Speaker 2

That's right. We need them to invite two people to this podcast right now?

Speaker 3

Yes, we all about to be your first step. Then the next step. Then you keep the first fraction the same. Say what? So we have 42 over 10. Fine, you want to stay the same. You don't want to change. Cool man, sometimes you know we have situations where it's like I don't need to change that, that just needs to stay exactly like it is. So that's what we're doing for our first fraction. Then we have the division. So then we keep the first fraction the same. Say what Change that division sign to a Sign sign. Easy Change that division sign to a Sign sign. Make sure you write this down with me and your student workbook. Here we go. Flip the last fraction, so 14 over 5 becomes. It's reciprocal. Say that with me reciprocal, reciprocal, which is what 5 over?

Speaker 2

14. This y'all hip hop, math teacher y'all.

Speaker 3

This is so simple and I'm not saying that because I'm a math teacher and everything like that, but I know you are seeing the light. Like all this time people try to make it like a fraction. We're just like so miserable. They're not, not a little man, they're very easy. They said multiply, like you know you should, okay. So what we're going to do at this point, look at our diagonal numbers.

Speaker 2

I'm going to set them up right over here. 42 is that you?

Speaker 3

want to go through the whole problem okay, yo this thing right here this make.

Speaker 1

I'm telling you I'm ready to go do some math again and let me ask you a question what age does this start? Like you know what let me tell you something.

Speaker 3

We had this in mind at the time I was teaching at Chester Community Charter School. Right when we were putting this together, I'm like, boom, I'm teaching seventh grade, so many of my students are not on seventh grade level, right. Sure, they need the fifth grade skills, sixth grade skills, some fourth grade skills. So we in our mind were like this is for middle school, right? That's what we said, that this is for middle school, right, that's what we said, that's what we thought. First school to use it was DMA, delaware Military Academy.

Speaker 2

It was used for a ninth grade remedial math course.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 3

So these kids were in ninth grade but they couldn't do the ninth grade math because they didn't understand the prerequisite skills that came from elementary and middle school. Wow, so they purchased lyrical math and was like like, can we use your program to get them up to par for ninth grade? They, they used the program.

Speaker 2

Data came back crazy the data was 165 percent increase in comprehension. We and was with. The dopest thing about this was the teacher didn't even like hip-hop no, not at all.

Speaker 3

She was like so what I gotta rap Like no.

Speaker 2

They was calling her the female Drake the student. Not for it, but even with A teacher that Is not into hip hop.

Speaker 3

She wasn't up there Spitting any bars. She did the program.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

And this was before the videos.

Empowering Parents With Lyrical Math

Speaker 2

Yeah, this was with the old book, right. So?

Speaker 3

We thought it was just For middle school, and then we had it was just for middle school, and then we had it for ninth graders and then we ended up having kids that were Remember, remember Rye, when she was on her way to daycare.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but in short, the standards we cover Is third through eighth grade math.

Speaker 3

Wow, and so those are the standards, but we just got to order. A parent Just placed the order for their daughter. That's saying what's she in first grade?

Speaker 2

wow second something like that I can see.

Speaker 1

I can, I can see this like that's what I'm saying, like right like wow, this is good, it's been an interesting um.

Speaker 2

It's been an interesting, all right, so how?

Speaker 1

how do people?

Speaker 2

because we gotta wrap this up this has been amazing, like I'm telling you like I'm just oh, we going to give you all of it. How do?

Speaker 1

we, how do people?

Speaker 2

how Lyrical, all right, so look those who are tech savvy get your phones out right now, get your camera out and you can pop this QR code right here. You can pop the.

Speaker 1

QR code I. You can also go to Lyric. This businessman over here is talking about popping through the YouTube. You can go to lyricalmathonlinecom.

Speaker 3

Lyricalmathonlinecom. Somebody, please type that in the comments section Lyricalmathonlinecom.

Speaker 2

Now to see everything we offer, you can go to lyricalmathinfo. Lyricalmathinfo. I know that's a funky website address, but it is legit, authentic Lyrical mathinfo wow, yeah, we here so any summer program, after school program, and we would love to talk, we would love to be a part of that, that organization or if you are just a parent, you want to support your child at home and make sure that they have their basic math skills down pack.

Speaker 1

this is giving the parents back the keys talk, talk, that's it.

Speaker 2

We want to empower parents, encourage them.

Speaker 3

They are the child's first teacher.

Speaker 2

Yes, and that's how it always was.

Speaker 1

Y'all know what parenting with a purpose, how we feel around here, and I'm just like I'm in awe right now Because I ain't never seen nothing like this, and I'm like I'm ready to go back and do some math. Let me tell you, but this has been. I think this is a game changer. I don't think I know this is a game changer. I'm really giving the parents back the keys to their children's education. Like we said, parents are the first teacher, parents are the first cheerleaders. Parents are everything right so.

Speaker 1

I'm I'm in awe and so y'all check this out. Y'all have to reach out to them. Lyrical Math Onlinecom. Miracle, it's a miracle. This is literally a miracle Out here. Lyrical Math Onlinecom. It's in the chat. Yes, yes, reach out to me.

Speaker 1

You know, parenting wap at gmailcom. If you have any questions, reach out back on Facebook. Hit us up on YouTube, where you're watching, you know, whatever it is any podcast platforms, apple, spotify, all those platforms that we're on all you got to do is the information there to contact me. We can get you hooked up with Lyrical Mav and we can do this thing.

Speaker 2

we can take back the keys for our children like we can be the parents change the narrative around that bring back the responsibility, nobility and beauty back into parenting that's what that is like wow, that needs to be a building yeah, so I want to thank you guys.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, from the depth of my soul, like, oh man, I wanted to shout around. I didn't go to church tonight, like this, has been an amazing show. The information, the way that you guys deliver the information, because it's one thing to have a product, it's another thing to believe in and be excited and be able to share that with the people. This is like lyrical math is who you are.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 1

And I can see it. I can see the passion. I can see it because you know, as a nurse, you can go to school to be a nurse. Right, you go to school to be a teacher and you just deliver the information. But it's something. Different is who you are. Yes, that's just who you are, and I see the passion and um, like you, you got me like listen, my sister is on here, I that's she's. She's tagging all these people on here. I'm seeing her tag yo, abel shout out to abel my sister.

Speaker 1

She is like she said she is literally tagging all these people in there and she's a mom. She has a 25-year-old and her daughter is one. She just had a baby. Wow, congratulations, I bet you she's trying to figure out how to get Gracie to do this.

Speaker 3

Listen, it's amazing, I'm telling you. This has been phenomenal.

Speaker 1

So thank you again for coming on the show. I appreciate it. Wow, we got to have you back again. Listen, spit some bars up in here and if you guys again lyrical map onlinecom, yes, shout out, reach out. If you can't remember that, just replay this, it's on there, it's online. And or reach out to me. You know, donna, janelle, parented with a purpose. Um, thank you guys for joining us tonight, um giving us your time. Thank you guys again, for I can't thank you guys enough for coming on this show. It's just amazing. Share like invite, share with people. You know, sharing is caring, sharing is caring.

Speaker 1

We out here snatching the keys back so that we can be able to parent with a purpose, have a great night.

Speaker 2

Shout out to CMP.

Speaker 1

Radio.

Speaker 3

CMP Radio with the hookup yes. So you guys have a good night. We are out to CMP Radio, yeah.

Speaker 1

CMP Radio with the hookup. You know what I'm saying? Yes, so you guys have a good night. We are out. See you next week. Peace, peace out. Yo yo Bye.

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Donna Janel

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